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Stivrunning
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 1285 Location: up north
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:59 pm Post subject: Returning to work in UK |
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A family member is returning to the UK after over 25 years of working and traveling overseas
They now plan to work 7 months in UK & 5 months overseas
They have been offered employment for the period while they are back in the UK
The Person employing them wishes to put them on the books for this period in UK
The family member will be staying with family on this visit to the UK ,
Anyone any experience on this or thoughts on how to progress it and deal with it.
Would their NI number be enough to get them started ?
They are NOT looking to scam or avoid paying the necessary taxes etc while being back in the UK
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Jorgan
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Come 29th March, or 29th June or whatevva, we don't want economic migrants! Brexit, Brexit, Brexit!
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explorerJC
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 16060 Location: Farthingstone
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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the EU believe it a good use of money to move offices every month...remain remain remain.....so one move a year doesn't seem so harsh...
To employ someone in the UK you have to jump through a few hoops and confirm the individual's right to work in the UK...which makes a mockery of the freedom of movement of people, but hey ho...you ought to check this as a minimum...
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Whisk
Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 8739 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:11 am Post subject: |
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So this family member has an NI number. Are they a British citizen? If so then no issue at all.
As an employer, the first thing you should do with a new employee is confirm their right to work in the UK. This obviously gets more complicated for non-British EU passport holders post Brexit. Not so much for people who are already here, but could be more difficult for new arrivals.
If the family member doesn't have an automatic right to work here then they could apply for a work permit either in their own right or with the employer as a sponsor. These come with lots of hurdles, including expected salary from the sponsoring employer.
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Stivrunning
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 1285 Location: up north
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:42 am Post subject: |
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The family member is British
born in UK left over 25 years ago
has both British & Australian citizenship ,also kept his British passport renewed
for the last 25+ years has lived and worked overseas
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Whisk
Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 8739 Location: London
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Stivrunning wrote: | The family member is British
born in UK left over 25 years ago
has both British & Australian citizenship ,also kept his British passport renewed
for the last 25+ years has lived and worked overseas |
OK, if British passport and an NI number then no problem at all for him working in the UK again.
He'll probably start on an emergency tax code and end up paying tax at a higher rate than necessary, but that should be easy to fix once he starts working full time. He will end up overpaying tax because PAYE will work on the basis that he is working for the full tax year, but it should be relatively easy to get a refund.
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Doonhamer
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Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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This family member, it's not GrahamO is it?
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explorerJC
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awildt
Joined: 08 Apr 2011 Posts: 705 Location: sunny (!) NW
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Whisk wrote: | Stivrunning wrote: | The family member is British
born in UK left over 25 years ago
has both British & Australian citizenship ,also kept his British passport renewed
for the last 25+ years has lived and worked overseas |
OK, if British passport and an NI number then no problem at all for him working in the UK again.
He'll probably start on an emergency tax code and end up paying tax at a higher rate than necessary, but that should be easy to fix once he starts working full time. He will end up overpaying tax because PAYE will work on the basis that he is working for the full tax year, but it should be relatively easy to get a refund. |
Agreed - should be no problem. NI number is biggest hurdle even if a British passport holder (some of us didn't grow up here but have the right passport).
Key for working between countries is keeping a track of your whereabouts as this will affect domicile status. However they will have to declare domicile status somewhere. This is where tax advise may be useful.
But as for getting a job and starting working the UK, there should be no blockers.
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GrahamO
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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explorerJC wrote: | Doonhamer wrote: | This family member, it's not GrahamO is it? |
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Too many taxes and awful cyclist haters there to be worth living there.
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Stivrunning
Joined: 23 Dec 2008 Posts: 1285 Location: up north
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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thanks guys crisis semi over
found a very old P45 at parents house and turns out still had a bank account left open from early 90,s
I tried contacting tax office prior to this
a complete waste of time ,WTF do these people actually do
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explorerJC
Joined: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 16060 Location: Farthingstone
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Stivrunning wrote: | thanks guys crisis semi over
found a very old P45 at parents house and turns out still had a bank account left open from early 90,s
I tried contacting tax office prior to this
a complete waste of time ,WTF do these people actually do |
god knows...
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Whisk
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Stivrunning wrote: | turns out still had a bank account left open from early 90,s
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If the account hasn't been used since the 90s then it'll almost certainly have been made dormant by the bank. Not too difficult to get it reactivated, but there will be a process and it might take a week or so.
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GrahamO
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Stivrunning wrote: | WTF do these people actually do |
Whatever the EU tells them and grow fat off an unearned final salary pension ?
And the senior guys prepare for a job in the EU bureaucracy when its their turn.
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Whisk
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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GrahamO wrote: | Stivrunning wrote: | WTF do these people actually do |
Whatever the EU tells them and grow fat off an unearned final salary pension ?
And the senior guys prepare for a job in the EU bureaucracy when its their turn. |
I don't know about the EU, but most of the more competent HMRC staff that I've come across seem to end up working for a Big 4 firm.
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