Ride London 100

GrahamO · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:39 pm Post subject:

The problem is you're just just being awkward and interpreting what you want to see. Its okay, I understand - you see a view you disagree with, and look to automatically turn it into a fight.

From a Strava login they can certainly tell statistically if you're likely to do 4 or 9 hours.

I understand you're an IT person - you really ought to know better than most what can be done with data analytics.
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Jorgan · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject:

hammerer · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:16 pm Post subject:

Toyota_Crown · Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:42 pm Post subject:

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Whisk · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 8739 Location: London

I know one of the event organisers - I'll ask her what the deal is with Strava logins the next time I see her. In the absence of any inside info, I'll pile in with the uninformed speculation

Rolling Eyes

RideLondon sees itself as the London Marathon of cycling events and seems to be pitching itself at newbies and inexperienced riders, particularly those coming via the charity route. I'm sure that lots of people signing up are starting from a very low base and aren't Strava users. The route features numerous official short cuts that allow people to avoid the hills if they are running close to the cut-offs or just don't fancy them. I don't think RideLondon are looking to push away slower riders.

I think they want to use the Strava data for seeding purposes to confirm the validity of people's estimated finish times to make sure that they are starting with people of a similar speed.

The London to Paris event that I ride captain for has a big issue with this. People self-seed themselves into a group with a target speed of 28km/h because they've hit that speed once on a descent, but they live somewhere pan flat and struggle with a motorway bridge, so their actual ability is closer to 24km/h and the ride captains have a nightmare trying to keep the groups together on the first day. The organisers now insist on Strava data or similar to validate their claimed ability. This is just for a single ride though, rather than giving full access to their Strava data.

Personally, I declined to give my Strava details. I've only been using the app for a few months and I don't think the data I have on there supports the time that I expect to be able to ride in the event. Ignoring the shortened event in 2014, my RideLondon times have varied between 4:21 and 4:35. Those results should be visible to anyone from the organisation validating my estimated time.

Unless it's from a road race, I don't think any Strava file is likely to accurately reflect how quickly you can get round that course if you are able to hold a wheel and do the odd turn to keep driving the group along. Before the first RideLondon in 2013, I think most people thought that they'd be going well to get under 5:00 for a 100 mile sportive, but 5:00 is actually relatively slow for RideLondon.
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Jorgan · Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:36 pm Post subject:

SGreg · Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 1112 Location: High Peak

99.9% sure it will be marketing,

Strava is a BIG Social Platform, lots of Value in that from a marketing perspective.

Filtering out slow riders Laughing

Deep Delusion, Don't give them your Facebook details as they will probably come round and steal your bike when you are on holiday to stop you riding it!!!

Jorgan · Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:31 pm Post subject:

Whisk · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 8739 Location: London

SGreg · Joined: 30 Jun 2010 Posts: 1112 Location: High Peak

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Jorgan · Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:39 am Post subject:

Whisk · Joined: 09 Jun 2005 Posts: 8739 Location: London

I got my 4th rejection magazine from 5 attempts.

It's a great event to ride, but the ballot seems to be massively skewed against MAMILs from London and Surrey. None of my male cycling buddies have got in this year, but the women get in every time.
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